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		<title>By: ooma bombards the airwaves in D.C. &#187; HD Connect Now</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>ooma bombards the airwaves in D.C. &#187; HD Connect Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would be buying advertising for the fall and bargains were to be had due to the economic recession. Ooma raised $14 million in VC funding in June, so it isn&#8217;t hard to guess where the money has come [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would be buying advertising for the fall and bargains were to be had due to the economic recession. Ooma raised $14 million in VC funding in June, so it isn&#8217;t hard to guess where the money has come [...]</p>
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		<title>By: July snapshot &#8211; HD Communication in North America &#8211; Consumer ITSPs &#187; HD Connect Now</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>July snapshot &#8211; HD Communication in North America &#8211; Consumer ITSPs &#187; HD Connect Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] information: ooma gets more cash, ooma goes RadioShack – Over the counter [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Wolpov</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wolpov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Some common ground!  Yes, I agree there aren&#039;t many options in the &quot;walk in, drop in cart, bring home, plug in&quot; category.  So we are talking about a distribution matter.  But I think there is a real reason for this condition.  Businesses buy hardware in stores, but don&#039;t like to buy services in stores, especially not mission critical communications services.  You can&#039;t put a bar code on services.

Ultimately, SMBs will go one of two ways:

1. Buy, install and manage on-premises PBX with connections to multiple providers.

2. Outsource.  Buy phones only.

In both cases, the service provider and equipment vendors are independent.  The underlying technology is so simple and standardized, vendor survival will only be possible with focus on one thing.

Being a service provider AND a hardware/software company is too much. That&#039;s why Microsoft Response Point partnered with Junction Networks and other service providers. They recognized they are not service providers and aren&#039;t trying to be everything for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Some common ground!  Yes, I agree there aren&#8217;t many options in the &#8220;walk in, drop in cart, bring home, plug in&#8221; category.  So we are talking about a distribution matter.  But I think there is a real reason for this condition.  Businesses buy hardware in stores, but don&#8217;t like to buy services in stores, especially not mission critical communications services.  You can&#8217;t put a bar code on services.</p>
<p>Ultimately, SMBs will go one of two ways:</p>
<p>1. Buy, install and manage on-premises PBX with connections to multiple providers.</p>
<p>2. Outsource.  Buy phones only.</p>
<p>In both cases, the service provider and equipment vendors are independent.  The underlying technology is so simple and standardized, vendor survival will only be possible with focus on one thing.</p>
<p>Being a service provider AND a hardware/software company is too much. That&#8217;s why Microsoft Response Point partnered with Junction Networks and other service providers. They recognized they are not service providers and aren&#8217;t trying to be everything for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mohney</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mohney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob--

Ooma and Vonage don&#039;t want your customers, unless you mean to tell me that the vast majority of your customers are mom-and-pop shops, SOHO, and some number of seats smaller than 25.

These are the guys that roll into Best Buy, Office Depot, Staples and/or Costco, buy something off the shelf, plug it in, and go onto their next problem of the day.

If they have more sophisticated needs, they&#039;ve probably gotten a call from Cox Business or XO or somebody else, or have found a VAR to install.

What I suspect is that ooma is going to do is prep a bundle that&#039;s preconfigured for the SMB/multi-line problem.   And no, you can&#039;t go into a Best Buy or an Office Depot and find &quot;plenty of options&quot; there.

Right now, you can buy an 8x8 solution -- hardware and service -- from Office Depot. You can go through Dell to get a Fonality solution, but that doesn&#039;t have service bundled in.  You could go to Costco to get a Microsoft Response Point solution, but it doesn&#039;t have service bundled in and who knows what is happening with Response Point.

So, no, there aren&#039;t &quot;plenty&quot; of options for a SOHO or smaller SMB to simply roll into Best Buy and do one-stop shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob&#8211;</p>
<p>Ooma and Vonage don&#8217;t want your customers, unless you mean to tell me that the vast majority of your customers are mom-and-pop shops, SOHO, and some number of seats smaller than 25.</p>
<p>These are the guys that roll into Best Buy, Office Depot, Staples and/or Costco, buy something off the shelf, plug it in, and go onto their next problem of the day.</p>
<p>If they have more sophisticated needs, they&#8217;ve probably gotten a call from Cox Business or XO or somebody else, or have found a VAR to install.</p>
<p>What I suspect is that ooma is going to do is prep a bundle that&#8217;s preconfigured for the SMB/multi-line problem.   And no, you can&#8217;t go into a Best Buy or an Office Depot and find &#8220;plenty of options&#8221; there.</p>
<p>Right now, you can buy an 8&#215;8 solution &#8212; hardware and service &#8212; from Office Depot. You can go through Dell to get a Fonality solution, but that doesn&#8217;t have service bundled in.  You could go to Costco to get a Microsoft Response Point solution, but it doesn&#8217;t have service bundled in and who knows what is happening with Response Point.</p>
<p>So, no, there aren&#8217;t &#8220;plenty&#8221; of options for a SOHO or smaller SMB to simply roll into Best Buy and do one-stop shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wolpov</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wolpov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a decent % of our customers not only want SIP calling, but they want to host their SIP domain with us.

Further, they want to choose phones based on open standards, so they are thrilled that we support any SIP device, software phone, etc.

Are you suggesting that Ooma will turn the devices into Asterisk PBxs on site at customer locations?  Aren&#039;t there plenty of options like that out there today?  If this is the end game for Ooma-SMB, then they are way behind in a crowded race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a decent % of our customers not only want SIP calling, but they want to host their SIP domain with us.</p>
<p>Further, they want to choose phones based on open standards, so they are thrilled that we support any SIP device, software phone, etc.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that Ooma will turn the devices into Asterisk PBxs on site at customer locations?  Aren&#8217;t there plenty of options like that out there today?  If this is the end game for Ooma-SMB, then they are way behind in a crowded race.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mohney</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mohney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares about open SIP calling?

Seriously, a small business owner isn&#039;t looking for open SIP, he&#039;s looking for cheap minutes.  If you mean to tell me that the average mom-and-pop shop of a half dozen people cares about SIP,  I&#039;d be really surprised.

The SMB guy wants something that they can plug in, and it works. Preferably plugged in by a VAR/consultant.

You are also assuming that Vonage and ooma (and Skype, for that matter) are A) Not aware of what a SMB user would want in an offering and B) Wouldn&#039;t go build those basic features themselves.

ooma&#039;s hardware runs Asterisk on top of a Linux derivative.  Just how much work do you think the ooma guys will have to enable that laundry list of features?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares about open SIP calling?</p>
<p>Seriously, a small business owner isn&#8217;t looking for open SIP, he&#8217;s looking for cheap minutes.  If you mean to tell me that the average mom-and-pop shop of a half dozen people cares about SIP,  I&#8217;d be really surprised.</p>
<p>The SMB guy wants something that they can plug in, and it works. Preferably plugged in by a VAR/consultant.</p>
<p>You are also assuming that Vonage and ooma (and Skype, for that matter) are A) Not aware of what a SMB user would want in an offering and B) Wouldn&#8217;t go build those basic features themselves.</p>
<p>ooma&#8217;s hardware runs Asterisk on top of a Linux derivative.  Just how much work do you think the ooma guys will have to enable that laundry list of features?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wolpov</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wolpov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our experience tells us otherwise.  Neither of these services can handle simultaneous calls, they don&#039;t have basic business features like extensions, directories, call groups, etc. and they don&#039;t support open SIP calling.

They would have to make major changes in order to cater to a business crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our experience tells us otherwise.  Neither of these services can handle simultaneous calls, they don&#8217;t have basic business features like extensions, directories, call groups, etc. and they don&#8217;t support open SIP calling.</p>
<p>They would have to make major changes in order to cater to a business crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mohney</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mohney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on how you define SMB, Rob.

I think for the smaller and/or distributed businesses of 3-15 people, ooma and Vonage will come to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on how you define SMB, Rob.</p>
<p>I think for the smaller and/or distributed businesses of 3-15 people, ooma and Vonage will come to play.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wolpov</title>
		<link>http://dougonipcomm.com/2009/06/23/ooma-gets-more-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wolpov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.    After 5 years in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onsip.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;business voip&lt;/a&gt; space with Junction Networks, I am confident the OOMA concept is not going to make it in the &quot;always-looming SMB market for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it.    After 5 years in the <a href="http://www.onsip.com" rel="nofollow">business voip</a> space with Junction Networks, I am confident the OOMA concept is not going to make it in the &#8220;always-looming SMB market for sure.</p>
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